And it ain't just the paintjob, amirite?

Who flies a drone ship with anything other than sentries?

So don't engage them at 20 km.

To be fair, a vagabond will never die to another solo fit HAC either...

So a Vagabond is no threat to a solo HAC (outside of massive stupidity on the part of the solo HAC), but a solo HAC is no threat to a Vagabond (outside of massive stupidity on the part of the Vagabond)

The thing that nobody in this thread seems to be taking into account is that a group of 3-4 vagabonds represents a serious threat to a similar group of 3-4 HACs, but are still immune to danger from those HACs...

TL;DR
people underestimate the ability to disengage.

PS: wrong is an absolute state and not subject to gradation... something is either wrong or it isnt there is no such thing as "more wrong"

minmatar. The best at running away from fights /thread

Im sorry, but id actually like to kill what i catch and not have to run because it takes me 5min to kill a vexor while his gang is inbound.

Eleven pages and I still can't get any love from the devs... Thanks for the bumps guys.

Cynabel
Golemm
Ravin
Staber
Phantom
Cunfessor
Nightmaer
Tengoo

I'm now officially incapable of even finding the undock button because spelling things incorrectly is a straight correlation on piloting skills. If I do one more typo I might lose the ability to even switch between ships as I cannot distinguish between an Atron and a Thanatos.

Ok then lets look at the KB.

The current most deadly ship is the saber.

The third most deadly ship and this months deadliest frigate is the Stiletto.

In sixth place is the cynable, an apparently useless ship.

Then we have the thrasher in tenth.

Near all sabers and stilettos uses autos and the cynable and thrasher a 50/50 split between autos and arty.


4 out of the top ten deadliest ships isn't exactly the hallmarks of an underpowered class. Blaster boats have nothing in the top ten unless you count the proteus but if we do that we have to count the loki too.

Best not to go down this path with a guy with a fleet doctrine named after him due to adapting hulls to any and every situation.

As for that megathron, lets see if any of you know why it was fit like that and why the CFC allows me to fly it..

Using that logic where are all the drakes?

According the the KM data they are. About the only cruiser that is doing poorly is the Agouror.Cynables using 425mm autos scored more kills alone than every single phantasm. 220mm vulcan cynables killed twice as many ships as every single orthrus. No other pirate faction cruiser even gets close to matching the cynable and here you are asking for it to be buffed.

The cynabal is just as old as the other pirate faction ships and it is out killing the vigilant too. Giving facts in a thread asking to undo the TE nerfs for autos is not trolling.

No, Im pointing out a ship that actually is underused.

People have been saying a/c ships are not popular and dont get used. The agouror is an example of what an underused ship looks like.

The Scythe got 5,247 kills last month, the Exequror 3,750. Logi ships do get killmails, the agouror and osprey don't because they don't see much use.

I used two examples, three with the vigilant. Even the Gila came nowhere near the cynable.
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What part of "it is an example of an underused ship" do you not understand?
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Yet people will continue to say blasters overshadow autos.

So, blasters overpower a/c but the vigilant is a situational ship despite being a thorax on steroids...

These arguments make zero sense. We have the evidenmce that shows auto cannon ships are either killing just as many targets as the other ships or better. There is no evidence that shows a/c need to be buffed. Infact, all evidence shows they would be overpowered if you do buff them.

You do realise the vigilant has the longest ranged blasters in the cruiser lineup don't you?

Having lived though it it was the cynabals that dominated with the cane, vagabond, SFI and stabber close behind. You plan will bring that horrible age back.

Having lived though it it was the cynabals that dominated with the cane, vagabond, SFI and stabber close behind. You plan will bring that horrible age back.

All this shows is that you want overpowered a/c boats back because they don't dominate like they used to.

EFT damage numbers are, to put it bluntly, near useless. For example, the large autos on my mach come out as 66km range, in game they are alphaing frigates all the way out to 90km. The only thing stopping them for going any further is the locking range of the ship.

Pirate Faction / Kills / Weapon Systems
1. Cynabal: 2641 / 60% AC + 40% Arty - 2th after Orthrus with AC
2. Orthrus: 2003 / Rapid Lights
3. Gila: 1262 / Drones
4. Stratios: 1182 / Drones
5. Phantasm: 690 / 50% Pulse/Beams
6. Vigilant: 562 / 60% Blasters + 40% Rails

it's a ninja nerf dude , read carefully